FOTW May 9, 2020

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  • John Mallary
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    I can’t find the WHO pandemic guidelines on their website stating that preventing herd immunity and locking down the healthy, is against their recommendations?

    Please respond with the link, if anyone has better results than I.

    Thank you.

  • epeeb1
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    The WHO has become a new propaganda outlet for the Communist Chinese Government ! CAUTION !

  • Archytype
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    Enjoyed today’s discussion, but the skype issue is getting rather tiresome! We have to help you with that somehow….get in touch with me.

  • Lois Rasmussen
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    Hi John Mallary
    See link for Who: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public
    I am Australian and we have had a reasonably rigorous shutdown but always hospitals, doctors,food shops, truck delivery and construction along with any outdoor work like farming forestry mining etc were working as usual with good advice on how to avoid picking up the illness, social distance and hygiene. Masks were not required unless you were actually looking after sick people. Our government opened up more “not working” payments to tide people over the lock down, charities also upped the provision of emergency supplies to folk doing it tough. International temporary workers visas were extended and farmers employing the harvesters have arrangements for accommodation and care until the lock down is gradually lifted.
    It must be harder where people live in massive apartment blocks etc Here 25,500,000 people and only 97 dead. Note this virus has post recovery complications like strokes, lung scaring and other chronic organ damage including possible infertility in males who had the needing hospital care when they had the disease.
    As each country has its own rules to manage this virus it will be an interesting research later to see what epidemic approach was effective from, health, financial, debt and societal changes that result. Lots of good data for learning stuff. Hoping you all stay well. So glad I was modestly prep’d.

  • Michael Durfee
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    The unintended consequences of people reacting to a life threatening problem that doesn’t have a beginning, middle, or end is a heavy disparity between fear and anger. Because there is no clear way to tell what is warranted until the problem is deemed neutralized. With no one to reciprocate a metric on the problem, the reaction is anger. When the reactions have no continuity, everyone is fearful of the persisting threat. So it’s really not the lockdown that is the problem here, it’s the process of reopening. Xaviar is right, we need an agreement to be on the same page. How are you supposed to reopen something when you can’t specify what parameters need to be for that to happen? Or, the ability to access the information which deems it safe for things to go back to “normal”. Cyril definitely nailed it by saying we need accountability from the ones who got this so wrong; and again with the solution being a clear direction where to focus the anger.

    Is overreacting in prevention a better one than herd immunity? Not if millions of people lose their jobs, banks and large corporations receive billions in bailouts, and other resources become stressed. However that doesn’t mean the unintended consequences of the lock down are all bad. I think we just can’t see them clearly.

    What IS keeping the stock market from crashing? The only thing that I can guess is some kind of suspended animation. Spooky.

    • Pi_Seas
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      The US cases began in retirement homes though and despite the media’s efforts to say it was not age-dependent, it has been from the start. They ignored the ongoing statistics while responding to these fairly normal numbers as if they’d never seen them before. Hospitals see these similar numbers every year which they report to their county and state daily, monthly, annually. I know this because I worked in a hospital for 7 years. Every season when hospitals are too full to accept more patients they simply tell everyone they’re at capacity. For some reason this year they felt stopping the economy over it was a good solution except it didn’t change the contributing factors like the 50% homeless citizen population wandering around unable to afford basic shelter that doesn’t share a bathroom and kitchen with several other people so nobody really has any privacy or space to do much, even if their job afforded them enough hours of work to earn 2x their monthly rent. Instead of doing anything functional with federal funding the local policymakers seem to keep it as a slush fund since conditions haven’t changed since the Chinese became the %1 buyer in 2016 and the rat population exploded so they’re in the sewers of suburbs now. Maybe their real intention is to re-create the rat virus that killed millions in the dark ages since the rats are the biggest petri dish in this country since the 1800s.

  • sgj
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    Ben, Regarding your hypothesis about the galactic magnetics and plasma flows as compared to our solar system: My interpretation is this another way of saying that the universe is fractal in nature.

  • Allenvaughan
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    Ben, I hope you get a chance to read my comment here about the “galactic sheet” thoughts you had today. I am going to coin a new phrase: “galactopause.” I would guess that, much like running a hand mixer with a bowl-full of cake batter, the stream of charged particles from the galactic center is indeed “pure”, as you said. And much like the quickly rotating paddles on each beater of the mixer creates a pulse of batter being pushed outward with great force and speed, the outward velocity of the galactic sheet may very well be relativistic in its speed. What its pulse frequency is, that’s anybody’s guess. But, what happens with the cake batter as it propogates away from the beaters is two-fold: the pulses of batter crest (or gain amplitude) going higher and higher, just as the pulses get close to the inside surface of the mixing bowl. They also seem to bunch up and slow down. I would siggest, much like the toy that has the chrome-metal balls suspended on strings that the energy of the sheet is dissipated over thousands of light-years’ distance. But also, the intergalactic space also exerts an inward force on the galactic sheet, creating at some given distance a point where any energetic emanations from the galactic center meet their opposite-the intergalactic pressure-and cease propogating outward. Where we are in The Milky Way, as far out as we are from the center, the weakened beam has become a compressed sheet with amplitude, and probably much slower than what happens closer in to the center. Just an observation. What do you think?

  • Sunny Bono
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    Any links to those WHO guidelines that are NOT being followed (i.e. avoiding shut downs, etc. )? Can that be shared please? Thanks.

  • Chalmer
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    I was never in The Fear Stage! It was just another ploy of those religiously dedicated to all things Global! They are presently working on numerous future ploys!!!!

  • mytechtoday
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    RE the heartbeat of the galaxy –
    The galactic core puts out a heartbeat of EM radiation and dust and material into the accretion disc. The specific ins and outs of when one particular star super flares or micro-novas is up to local conditions, and specifics about that particular class of star.

  • mytechtoday
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    The “consensus” science regarding cosmology and astronomy MUST avoid the disaster-cycle as an answer because that is the reason for science at this point: determine with 1,000,000,000% certainty that it isn’t something else other than a re-occurring micro-nova.

  • mytechtoday
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    And also know with 1,000,000,000% certainty when it will occur.

    That is the reason why all of the discoveries these days seem to confirm the micro-nova answer because the truth is becoming more obvious

  • Dixie
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    At this point from everything I have read, heard about the virus, taking vit C, D, and zinc will help one’s immune system for when you come in contact with it and if the kids had been kept in school, people under 50 ish had been allowed to work and only people with compromising conditions or really old like me sheltered at home for a couple of weeks, month maybe; we would have herd immunity by now and the virus would be dying out. The plan adopted was, is a disaster from a health perspective from the beginning so other agendas have been, still are at work.

    • Pi_Seas
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      I agree with you, Dixie. Folks over 50 ish with comorbidity challenges (like diabetes, mold sensitivity, latex and other allergies, etc) could have self quarantined. Maybe it was a way to distract the general public from recognizing that 50% of the citizens are homeless and can’t afford to live in closet sized rooms with shared kitchens and bathrooms that popped up across the country since 2016 when China became the %1 buyer of US real estate and tripled the cost of housing. and those folks are still wandering around spreading biohazard waste while retirement homes constitute at least 80% of the fatalities as usual every flu season.

  • Pi_Seas
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    21:21 – The 15ft wide lightning strike was 10-30-19 in a Forth Worth, Texas, Chevron gas station, a few feet from fuel tanks (which were undamaged). It seems like the news channels reacted to China’s response to the virus before recognizing that our annual flu has killed more than 60k the past few seasons and normally well over $30k- we’re like 35th in positive medical outcomes for developed countries. Technically since China dramatized their flu season with military taking people from homes to quarantine someplace else, intends to justify enforcing future vaccines for pharma stocks and buying cheap bankrupt global real estate. Quarantining everyone instead of people over 60 is illogical since it protects the 1-3% sick at the expense of 97-99% of the rest of the world. Also it’s ironic that in the US, no change was made to reduce the ongoing biohazard of the 50% homeless citizen population, despite the supposed concern for minimizing biohazard exposure- yet after it all shakes out- everyone’s bankrupt and will only add to the homeless population and subsequent biohazard threats that caused this seasons challenges that account for the 10k increase in flu mortality since last year. Maybe they hoped the 60k homeless in Washington state alone would have died off except somehow they’re still around while retirement homes accounted for most of the fatalities (as usual since they have mold complications).

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