FOTW June 20, 2020

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  • Janice Phillips
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    The first story…
    Fascinating.

    • onezeroseven
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  • ALLNATURE
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    Mosquitos came all the way to Costa Rica, I never seen this type with stripes like Adrian said.
    Thanks again fam,
    Carlos

  • Charles
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    Big pharma pretty much owns the media. They also are the biggest lobbyist, double the $$$ as big oil, and 4X the $$$ as the military industrial complex.

    Don’t get me started on Anitfa either! I’ve been suggesting putting them in front of a firing squad.

  • Kane1331
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    All religions were the same religion until a group came along and destroyed the original texts and changed the stories. Anatoly Fomenko and the critical thinking movement in Russia made of thousands of professors and leaders in academia have given a new chronology. Not new but a chronology that can be proven. All the old churches had relics from many religions. The moon and cross appear on many churches. Scalagarian chronology that we accept had always been considered fake by many great minds. Newton and many others in our past completely disagree with Scalagerian chronology who was an agent of the church with some sick ideas not a historian. He basically made up the history we accept now. History fiction or science ? A 7 volume series filled with actual references and documented proof that leaves no mystery to our history but shows the degradation of our species over time. Not evolution devolution.

  • jtempleton
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    I wanted to do more research on Monteshesism and came up with a bunch of dead ends using google and safari. Can anybody find anything – links? I find is fascinating because the first meeting of Nicene was 325AD and the finalization of the Catholic faith beliefs was likely in the 400 AD area. It is interesting because many of the early Christian beliefs were tossed out (like reincarnation) and were then later considered heretical. I want to know what this religion included. I was born and raised Catholic, but am now having many problems with what the early Christians believed and were then likely tossed out to meet the needs of the Catholic hierarchy so it cold continue on holding its people hostage to the true belief that ‘god is within’ and that we all can have access anytime, anyplace and we are all eternal beings with religious dogma not required. In other words, we have been lied to and held hostage.

    • Vinny
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      J. T. You probably have come to the realization that the Catholic church was created after all the real christians were killed: fed to lions, killed by gladiators, lit on fire for light as a source of light for street performers, boiled in oil, stoned to death etc. And trusting what came out of that may be hard for some – considering the need for the new church to control real estate, and the masses.
      But understand this; The bible was created in such a way that every chapter, in both new and old Testaments points to JESUS. For example, in the old Testament, (GOD) visits Abraham. Abraham recognises (GOD) as he walks near with 2 Angels. How is this possible? Considering no man has ever seen GOD “The Father”. Exodus 3 tells us that Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God in the burning bush. In John 1 the bible tells us that Jesus has been around forever – since the beginning of time – which is long before he was born in human form. John 1 says “in the beginning was the word of GOD, the word of GOD was with GOD, the word of GOD was GOD, then the word of GOD became flesh and lived among us”. So I ask you, was it more likely that Jesus visited Abraham Thousands of years before Jesus was born as a man, or was it possible GOD the Father visited abraham and abraham was able to look Directly at and converse with GOD?
      The point I am trying to make is this, God knew mankind/the Catholic church would screw with his words, but the words are JESUS, and cannot be hidden, nor have their meanings changed ever. The stories teachings and conclusions reveal themselves only to believers, as the bible says because they would not believe the Truth they will believe a lie. A fantastic book to read would be the book of enoch. it adds amazing descriptions likely taken out of the bible to as a way for the people to have to ask their questions to a priest.
      Lastly, Jesus is always with us, and GOD’s spirit does live inside real Christians those who have surrendered their lives to GOD). After all, would you give your house keys and access to your home and your credit cards to a complete stranger? Neither does GOD. And he cannot be fooled. For more insight into what you seek, vincentp0402@gmail.com

      • Sunny Bono
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        Many (most?) Of the well educated in my area (Cambridge, MA) simply don’t exposed themselves to info that would call Gates, Soros, or Dem politicians into question. No matter how obvious the need is (to those who look for different perspectives, at least). Listen the the early/mid 1980s interviews with the KGB Defector Yuri (last name?). Confusion to the point of not knowing how to even defend yourself is part of the ‘destruction from within’ Communist scheme. And just a couple days ago, a.co founder of BLM admitted that they are “trained Marxists” who possess an ideological frame work (like fugging Marxism!) to “help” black neighborhoods and “transform” America. Those interviews and discussions he gave will chill your blood. And it is hard to k iw what to do in response and how to defend self and community.

    • S Koluch
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      I found a podcast that’s been around since about 2014, The History of the Papacy Podcast. He goes into a lot of detail on the early formation of the church, and the various factions and personalities, including ideas that were debated back and forth.

    • ryanw@use.startmail.com
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      manichaeism

  • Michael Durfee
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    I think it was Ben who said a little while back on FOTW that our chances to find something to take away from these widespread fear / anger cycles is going to be slim. But it’s important to realize what Adrian said as to the unintended consequences that result. More widespread consciousness on public health I think it was. But also medical practices scrutinized, logistical pathways optimized, knowing what resources to take stock in, identification, mitigation and isolation of a broad range of issues and where they reside. Many things to be mindful of and thankful for which persist hereafter. One of them I have to expand upon is the coverage that the giant media companies are getting which perform editorial censorship or violate publishing regulations that forfeit their section 280 protection rights, or however you phrase that; has got to be near the top. All of these things have been prioritized as a result of recent happenings in our public sphere. I’m not trying to dismiss or understate the conditions which brought about any wrongful death on behalf of innocent individuals here, but a large percentage of flak in which the public sphere is getting right now is only from a very noisy, but very small group of individuals. All we can do is protect and be thankful of the unintended consequences which result.

    And when I say ‘public sphere’ I’m suggesting a model in which interprets that society’s needs cannot be met entirely through the supply and demand dynamic; where its success is measured upon a number of complicated elements like the ideas, opinions, and views which circulate within it; and perhaps even the dynamics of those elements. The other one would be the ‘market model’ which suggests society’s needs can best be met through efficiency, responsiveness, flexibility, and innovation. Efficiency where profits increase off of better goods at lower prices. Responsiveness to supply and demand. Flexibility to accommodate the changes within the supply/demand balance. Innovation to pursue profits generated from development of new products that can capture a larger market share or secure an untapped market segment. But the thing is with the market model, its success is based upon the only acceptable outcome (in business) profits. What differences do we find, or take away, in using these models to interpret our societal dynamics? I would argue despite their similarities in their intended effects on large bodies of people, they differ in their definition of what their audience is. Now that we have the two models outlined, we should use them for comparison on the very dynamic feedback process taking place between them. This process for the time being we’ll call the ‘free market of ideas’. The changes within the public sphere’s supply and demand (of goods and services) influences how the market responds to it. Subsequently the changes in the markets will reflect what the public’s supply and demand on goods, services, and industries are. And the feedback process persists. By all accounts this feedback process has not been going well. One sided ideas polluting the discourse on how best to move forward? Unethical intentional manipulation? Honest miscommunication? Some other unknown causal factor? Obviously not something we’re going to get to the bottom of here. Which begs the question, are we faced with a false dichotomy in choosing a market model or a public sphere model? Is there another option? What does that look like? How does that fit into our current socio political configuration?

    Which takes me to the question as to why should it be a market that we use to put the ‘free marketplace of ideas’ at scale? Because all ideas initially come from the individual. If you have a grievance, where you don’t agree with something, there is a right to do that peaceably. Peaceably redress your grievances, to petition, to assemble, to write, to speak in debate in the free market of ideas; and let the good ideas rise in awareness. It’s just that there are individuals that don’t want that. They want only their ideas heard and for you to only think their way. They don’t even want to debate things because their mind is made up. But if your ideas are so good, they should be able to stand the test of the free marketplace of ideas. Of open debate. Which is why I suggest the value of extending our analytic framework beyond the bottom line to include service to the public interest as a core component in our assessment of the ‘free marketplace of ideas’, might be a good place to start for elucidating what the cause is for concern. Which in conclusion brings me to the final questions in the free marketplace of ideas. What could be said? What should be said? What that can be said will you be the first to say?

  • Fire302
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    Thanks guy’s.

  • Joe.¤.
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    Apollo mission related to Apollonious possible?

    Doug vought talked about him recently. Theosophisct Lodge seems to elevate this guy. Apollonian talismans are said to be in cities the world over.

    Deep dive on that topic takes you to the pagan/babylonians mystery religions and the concept of the miracle mother, semiramis or isis, or columbe, aka Columbia, think DC or Pictures, or the virgin Mary…

  • VisitingProf
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    Dear fellow “Flies (on the Wall),* Thank you for your comments. Aside from the primary discussion the ‘Observers’ comments are appreciated by this observer. At the start of this recent episode of FOTW Ben brings up some ancient religious or spiritual belief construct. At first it seemed he was talking about Zorastrianism (also Persian) and yet then he mentioned a rather different name. It is interesting that such a temple as the one Ben mentioned would have been built soon after a major (presumably) solar blast -The Charlemagne Event. This ties in the notion that many, many, many of our ‘spiritual’ or ‘religious’ belief systems do connect to actual experience and observations. Go figure. (Ooops – I’m thinking I will share a typo from the prior sentence with other readers. It was ‘…obswervations….’ note: the word “swerve” almost embeded therein! Perhaps that was a ‘Ziggy Fleudian’ Slip! (sp. x2) Smile.) Also, I would like to add this – ‘occult’ essentially means “hidden.” So, why would a ‘masses control drama’ organization choose to ‘hide ‘ earlier observations? There’s not a bit of confusion here. Next, the “masons” organization(s) are reportedly dying off. while younger generations do not appear to have much interest. I am reminded of the speech by the most recently assassinated US President: “In a free and open society….no place for secret societies …” (Thesis -|- Anti-thesis.) Even so, try to find a book or two by Laurence Gardner on this topic if you are curious. You could learn a few things. In this context his book Realm of the Ring Lords comes to mind first. Keep on Learning!

    In the comments jtempleton makes a few interesting points. Also, especial thanks go to Michael Durfee. Certain folks who offer comments here help to remind me that there are other deep thinkers out there
    The USA is still extant regardless of the wishes of the Nuevo Whirled Odourous adherents.
    Happy Fourth of July, Folks!

    • Joe.¤.
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      Thank you for the recommendation. There are observations to be had everywhere, most likely coincidence and bias. Here is another one I had: MLK is Hebrew for king? Also, MLK was an inscription found at the sight of what may have been child sacrafice rituals to (perhaps) Canaanite god “Moloch” (a bull in which children would be burned alive). MLK Jr was assassinated, the King’s child. I had a photo of a roadside stop in which a reproduction of Moloch was produced, large enough to burn plenty of children in. LOL, I’m not advocating. It’s in South Dakota if anyone is interested.

    • Sunny Bono
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      Many (or most?) of the well educated in my area (Cambridge, MA) simply don’t expose themselves to info that would call Gates, Soros, or Dem politicians into question. No matter how obvious the need is (to those who look for different perspectives, at least). Listen the the early/mid 1980s interviews with the KGB Defector Yuri (last name?). Confusion to the point of not knowing how to even defend one’s self is part of the ‘destruction from within’ Communist scheme. And just a couple days ago, a co founder of BLM admitted that they are “trained Marxists” who possess an ideological frame work (like fugging Marxism!) to “help” black neighborhoods and “transform” America. Those interviews and discussions Yuri gave will chill your blood. And it is hard to k iw what to do in response and how to defend self and community.

  • Ricky Neff
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    This is the FOTW I love. Thank you boys!

  • Ricky Neff
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    I’m pretty sure that religion is tied to theosophy

  • onezeroseven
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  • onezeroseven
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    You guys are the greatest. FOTW makes me feel like I’m among friends. Glad I bought a membership. My thanks to Adrian for some fine tech-support.

  • Brad
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    I doubt very seriously we will have to worry too much about climate or sun issues. I country is being torn apart from within and how long do you think this will last? I submit there will be a race war in the very near future sadly.

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